May 12 2008, 12:55 pm - Replied by: Explicit_Faith

I never said that prophesy was finished, but THIS PARTICULAR prophesy was fulfilled. In other words that the death on the cross was real-time fulfillment of prophesy and that Jesus was teaching as He hung there on the cross.

Your second point. It was God's plan that Jesus would die for our sins. The first prophesy mentioned in the Bible in Genesis 3:15 clearly refers to the nailing of Christ to the cross and how that act would conquer death by the crushing of the head.

The reference to Isaiah 53:10, where it states that it PLEASED God to do this. The Hebrew word can also be defined as DESIRE. It was God's desire to allow this to happen. Of course His plan would please Him. His plan is perfect!

May 12 2008, 5:23 pm - Replied by: endtimesProphet

RandPhoenix wrote: So only prophecy was finished?  That doesn't make sense either.  And as to your idea of the Father forsaking His Son, look at Isaiah 53:10.  It says plainly that it pleased the Lord to crush the Messiah.  The word for crush means "grind into powder" or "destroy."  This is clearly stating that the Father killed the Son.  Not only this, but Romans 3:25 calls Jesus a propitiation, which means the satisfaction and turning away of wrath.  Which means that Jesus bore the wrath of God on the cross for our sins.

The truth is not just Prophecy but the fulfillment of the passover Feast as well. If you truely would like to know read this. Yahshua = YahWeh is the Messiah“Jesus the Christ”Yahshua came to fulfill the Law or he came to fulfill the Makrah or rehearsals of the spring feast that the Jews had been doing year after year century after century. In this teaching you will see how Yahshua literally fulfilled the Spring Feast. When Yahshua comes again to set up his Kingdom here on the Earth he will fulfill the Fall feast of Yahweh “the Lord”We must first look at the name given to the Month of firstfruits the first month of the Jewish callander. Abiyb is an ear of corn, and is the month of newly-ripened grain (Ex. 13:4; 23:15); the first of the Jewish ecclesiastical year, and the seventh of the civil year. It began about the time of the vernal equinox, on 29th. March. It was called Nisan, after the Captivity (Neh. 2:1). On the fifteenth day of the month, harvest was begun by gathering a sheaf of barley, which was offered unto the Lord on the sixteenth (Lev. 23:4-11).Abiyb DefinedAbiyb was the Egyptian word for green ears, referring to the green barley that was offered as the firstfruits to God in that month. Abiyb is used four times in the Word (Exodus 13:4; Exodus 23:15; Exodus 34:18). The Septuagint calls it the month of new things. Nisan is substituted for Abiyb after Ex.13:18. Nisan means the month of flowers or blossoms (Neh. 2:1; Esther 3:7). The Passover was killed in the evening in Egypt (Exodus 12:6), but the people did notleave until after midnight (Exodus 29-42). abiyb,  aw-beeb'; from an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, i.e. a young ear of grain; hence the name of the month Abiyb or Nisan :- Abiyb, ear, green ears of corn.Each day of Abiyb had a specific meaning and the Jews were comanded to adhere to Eloheems “Gods’’  specific instruction about each day. On the 11th. day of Abiyb the high priest would go out the north gate to Bethlehem to select the Passover lamb.  â€œYahshua” the Lamb of God was born in Bethlehem.”Some of the priest would stay at the gate and wait for the high priest to return with the lamb. When the priest would see the high priest coming with the lamb the priest at the gate would begin shouting Hosanna to the highest Blessed is he that comes in the name of YahWeh.          

This is spoken of in   Psalm 118:25-26 (KJV)   Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity. 26Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.

Then all the priest all the way to the Temple would begin shouting and a chain reaction would begin  and all the people of Jerusalem would get involved with the celebration and they Would lay their palm leaves on the ground for the high priest to walk on with the Passover lamb.In the year of  (32 A.D), It went down a little different. Lets go back to the 9th. day of Abiyb or 6 days before Passover. Yahshua took a handful of his disciples to Simons house were Lazarus was  John 12:1a. Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was Then Mary anointed Yahshua and prepared him for his burial.  John 12:3   Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.  John 12:7 (KJV)   Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this.The next morning on the 11th. day of Abiyb Yahshua instructed his disciples . Matthew 21:5 (KJV)   Tell ye the daughter of Sion, [ which is Jerusalem ] Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. This was done so the prophecy of Zech.9;9 could be fulfilled.Zech. 9:9 (KJV)   Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.  Matthew 21:6-8 (KJV)  And the disciples went, and did as Jesus commanded them, 7And brought the ass, and the colt, and put on them their clothes, and they set him thereon. 8And a very great multitude spread their garments in the way; others cut down branches from the trees, and strawed them in the way. 15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. 16These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him. 17The people therefore that was with him when he called Lazarus out of his grave, and raised him from the dead, bare record.         Matthew 21:18For this cause the people also met him, for that they heard that he had done this miracle. 19The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him. 19  And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest. Luke 19:39-40 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. 40And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. What had happened was at the time the High Priest should be coming through the North gate with the sacrificial lamb Yahshua came  riding up on a donkey and his desciples which probably numbered in the hundreds began shouting Hosanna to the son of David blessed is he that cometh in the name of YahWeh “the Lord” This created a chain reaction and all the people began shouting and laying down their Palm leaves in the path to the Temple and instead of Caiaphas the high priest “The High Priest Yahshua” came riding through Jerusalem on a Donkey to the Temple. Yahshua was telling them that this was the day the Mikrah  or [rehearsal  was being fulfilled. This had been rehearsed by the Jews for hundreds of years and Yahshua was fulfilling it that day. The feast of YahWeh “ the Lord” would have been fulfilled Know matter what the people did  even if by the rocks crying out. They have realized by this time that they cannot shut up the crowed and by this the Feast of YahWeh ‘the Lord” would be literally fulfilled by the Lamb of Eloheem “God” After the high priest brought the lamb to the Temple the priest and all the relegious leaders would inspect it for 4 days until the 14th. of Abiyb to make sure it didn’t have a spot or blemish on it. When the lamb of Eloheem “God” Yahshua arrived at the Temple all the religious leaders Pharisees, Sagasees, Herodians and priest inspected him for 4 days with questions and false accusations trying to find fault with him.On Tue before sunset  the 13th. day of Abyib Yahshuah instructed his disciples to prepare for the Passover Tuesday at sunset begins the 14th.of Abyib  to Wednesday sunset, this was the day of the preparation when the Passover must be killed.  The next day wed. at sunset Wed. April 09 32 AD.the 15th.of Abyib would begin the "high day," the great special Sabbath, not the ordinary weekly Sabbath (John 19:30-31; Leviticus 23:6-7).  The regular feast of unleavened bread did not officially begin until a day after the Passover, but Jews began to eat this bread on the day of the preparation, and that is what is referred to here.After sunset Luke 22:7 (KJV)   Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed

Then came the 14th. of Abyib. .Tue after sunset the disciples sit at meat with Yahshua to eat the feast of unleavened bread .

 

The Sunday after Passover or Sabbath The First fruits harvest were to be waved before the Lord (Leviticus 23:6-16).  “First fruits Sun.18th. Abyb/NissanLeviticus 23:15-16 (KJV)      And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: [16] Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord. Deut. 16:9 (KJV)      Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn. Seven weeks from the 18th. of Nissan =  Sivan 2 or June 1st.        Luke 22:14-20 (KJV)   And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19And he took bread, and gave thanks, [What he was doing was blessing the bread and wine just like when Melehizedek broke bread and wine with Abraham ]  and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. [What he was doing was he was fulfilling what they had practiced for hundreds of years since Abraham. He was saying this is what you’ve been doing century after century and Sabbath after Sabbath. He interpreted what they had been doing all along by saying  This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. This cup is the New Testament in my blood, which is shed for you. ]The Last Supper was not Passover but the Last Supper or the feast of unleavened bread, which they had started eating early at this time “see previous page”  

Latter that night at the garden of  Gethsemane Judas betrayed Yahshua with a kiss and the led him away to Annas.

John 18:13 (KJV)   And led him away to Annas first; for he was father in law to Caiaphas, which was the high priest that same year. [And then ] Matthew 26:57b. (KJV) to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled. [Then they led him unto Piolet to be judged ] John 18:28 (KJV)   Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the Passover.[It was just after break of day “early” By this scripture we see that the lamb had not yet been sacrificed and eaten yet or the Passover hadn’t taken place yet because it was not time it was not even  eh'-reb; from Hebrew 6150 (`arab); dusk :- + day, even (-ing, tide), just before sunset.It was law that a Jew could not defile himself by going into an infidels home during Passover or he would be unclean and couldn’t eat of the Passover lamb.  The high priest had to prepare and give the Passover lamb for sacrifice at the ninth hour or 3pm. The priest had to have Yahshua judged in time for him to complete his work.]Matthew 27:1-2 (KJV)   When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death: 2And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.       Luke 23:14 (KJV)   Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him: After the 4 days of inspecting the lamb the high priest would say I have fount no fault in him. The same as Pilate did Yahshua.Matthew 27:19 (KJV)   When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him. Matthew 27:24 (KJV)   When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it. Now we must go back to Abraham and Isaac. Genesis 22:6-9 (KJV)  And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.Abraham put the wood of the sacrifice on Isaac’s back and the wood of the sacrifice was put on Yahshua’s back “the cross”.John 19:17 (KJV)   And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha: Gen.22: 7And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. God himself Yahshua would be that sacrifice.9And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. This is the same place Yahshua was crucified. Luke 23:34 (KJV)   Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Here we have Yahshua asking for forgiveness for their sins just as the High priest would.

Mark 15:24-25 (KJV) And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take. 25And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. 3 pm. Wed April 09—0032 AD      We must now readMark 15:22 (KJV)   And they bring him unto the place Golgotha, which is, being interpreted, The place of a skull.Why was it called the place of a scull?Here is my understanding of this matter.We must go to the Hebrew to understand this. David took the skull of Goliath of Gath and buried it outside of Jerusalem on Mt. Moriah.By this it was named the place of the skull.Lets look at two Hebrew words      gol-yath'—of - gath—   or Golgotha The Word tells us inPsalm 22:12 (KJV)  Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. Bulls- par—as dividing the hoof) Bashan- baw-shawn'—a region of Palestine :- [Bashan-] Havoth-jair.—This Location is where many Giants where conceived by Fallen Angels and lived and died.When we put all this together we see that this is talking about the spirits of the Giants that had been slain they where at the cross Psalm 22:13 (KJV)  They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.These they where tormenting Christ  even to his death. The 3rd. hour was 9:00 a.m. in the morning He was nailed to the cross.  He expired six hours later at 3:00 p.m. at the time when the Passover lambs were to be killed (Matthew 27:45-50; Luke 23:44-46) Numbers 9:11 (KJV)  The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.  eh'-reb; from Hebrew 6150 (`arab); dusk :- + day, even (-ing, tide), night.Matthew 27:45-46 (KJV)   Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. At this hour the sun should be reflecting off of the golden bowls like lightning but not so this day it was pitch dark.46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?This was the same meaning of the rejection of the Jews and them being cut off.Hebrews 13:11-12 (KJV)   For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. 12Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. John 19:28-37 (KJV)  After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. After the high priest had sacrificed the lamb he would say  “I thirst” and he would receive first fruit wine to drink.29Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. aox'-os; from Greek 3691 (oxus); vinegar, i.e. sour wine :Instead of first fruits they gave Yahshua sour wine from sour grapes.30When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,. John 19:34 (KJV)      But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.    (Dalet - Mem) Dam:Blood    Gen .4  contains the first occurrences of four concepts: Birth, Death, Blood and Door. This coheres with the meaning of the name of the Fourth letter (Dalet, Door) and manifests in the Dalet KeyWord (Dam, Blood) which is analyzed as:

(Dam, Blood) = (Dalet, Door of Birth/Death) + (Mem, Water)

In simple English, Blood is the "water" (liquid) that issues forth when one passes through the Universal Door.

 30b.It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. When the high priest had finished giving the sacrifice he would say  “It is finished” The sacrificial lamb was slain and put in the oven at this time of day.31The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) Deut. 21:23 besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. 37And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced. Matthew 27:51-54 (KJV)  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

May 13 2008, 7:50 am - Replied by: endtimesProphet

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